Dr
Michael Antoniou is a Senior Lecturer in the
Division of Medical and Molecular Genetics at Guy’s,
King’s & St Thomas’ School of Medicine in London.
His area of expertise is chromatin domains, gene
organisation and regulation of gene expression.
The ultimate aim of his research is to design and
deliver therapy gene units to adult stem cells that
can address diseases such as muscular dystrophy.
On
cloning human beings:
"There are certainly going to be people who will
attempt it, whether they will be successful or not
is another question. But the point is that the equipment
and the know-how to try to clone, are actually readily
available, and that is a worry.
I
think even if we solved all of the technical problems,
and we think that cloned humans are going to be
normal; whatever that means, I think it is morally
and ethically unacceptable to clone human beings.
Therefore there should be an international ban on
anything that will contribute to that, and most
people that you talk to, agree in that regard."
On
the need to use an embryo on the way to creating
new tissues from adult cells:
"I think that what has been discovered, especially
in the last couple of years, clearly shows that
stem cells obtained from adults, have as much therapeutic
potential as embryonic stem cells. In fact, it's
such a new that we don't know the limits yet of
adult stem cell potential. Because now we can take
stem cells from the bone marrow, and we can not
only regenerate the blood system, but potentially
we can regenerate nervous tissue, muscle tissue,
heart tissue, liver tissue. Really it's just growing
all the time."
On
whether problems that develop when cloning whole
animals, will develop in cloned embryonic stem cells
that scientists want to use to treat disease:
"There is published evidence from a very reputable
group in the USA, that shows that actually even
embryonic stem cells do have genetic instability,
especially epigenetic instability."
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On
whether there is a need to use embryonic stem cells:
"We don't need to use embryonic stem cells because
of what has been discovered in the last couple of
years, which is that, adult stem cells are far more
plentiful than originally thought and they can actually
be isolated in large numbers, from a number of different
tissues. Also, these cells can be grown in culture
with varying degrees of efficiency, for example
skin stem cells can be propagated for as long as
a year. So although I agree that adult stem cell
propagation is more difficult than embryonic stem
cell modification, I think that it's clear that
we can get enough to do the job, from a given person,
and I think that's all that's important.
My
feeling is that what's out there in the adult stem
cells field is not being fully appreciated. Far
more is going on than is being acknowledged. I do
not understand why it's being said that embryonic
stem cells offer the only hope.
I
think that it's very important to study a genetic
or a cellular phenomenon in its proper context,
and I think that if you want to study the signals
that trigger adult stem cells to go down a particular
differentiation pathway, then you should study them
in an adult context, and if you want to find out
about embryonic signals, then you should study them
in an embryonic context. But the other thing that
seems to be remarkable about adult stem cells is
their ability to adapt to the environment to which
they are introduced, and then contribute to the
repair of the area which has been damaged."
On
the future:
"I think that it may not be necessary to use embryonic
stem cells, because the way that things are progressing
in the adult stem cell field, I feel that we will
be able to get all we want from a person, at a time
when we need it, and offer a range of regenerative
stem cell based therapies as a result."
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